Wednesday, January 13, 2016

A quote from Malcome X

"There is no better than adversity. Every defeat, every heartbreak, every loss, contains its own seed, its own lesson on how to improve your performance the next time."

On December 1, 1963, when asked for a comment about the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Malcolm X said that it was a case of "chickens coming home to roost". He added that "chickens coming home to roost never did make me sad; they've always made me glad."[107] The New York Times wrote, "in further criticism of Mr. Kennedy, the Muslim leader cited the murders of Patrice Lumumba, Congo leader, of Medgar Evers, civil rights leader, and of the Negro girls bombed earlier this year in a Birmingham church. These, he said, were instances of other 'chickens coming home to roost'."[107] The remarks prompted a widespread public outcry. The Nation of Islam, which had sent a message of condolence to the Kennedy family and ordered its ministers not to comment on the assassination, publicly censured their former shining star.[108] Malcolm X retained his post and rank as minister, but was prohibited from public speaking for 90 days.[109]
 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malcolm_X

The Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Jr. of Chicago's Trinity United Church of Christ, and Barack Obama's pastor since 1988, told his congregation in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001, "The Day of Jerusalem's Fall," that U.S. terrorism had precipitated Al-Qaeda's attack. "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye. We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards." Wright concluded that "America's chickens are coming home to roost."

"They're trying to bamboozle you," Obama said for the first time Wednesday[, Jan. 23,] in Sumter, S.C., to a predominantly African American crowd while refuting e-mails falsely identifying him as a Muslim. "Don't let people turn you around because they're just making stuff up. That's what they do. They try to bamboozle you, hoodwink you." Obama repeated those lines frequently as he traveled around the state.
The lines echo the best-known version of the Malcolm X speech, which comes from Spike Lee's biopic. It's a stinging address full of blunt racial division, which warns blacks about being "hoodwinked" and "bamboozled" by "the white man." "You've been had. You've been took. You've been hoodwinked. Bamboozled. Led astray. Run amok," Malcolm says in the speech.
http://www.danielpipes.org/blog/2008/03/americas-chickens-are-coming-home-to-roost

31 comments:

  1. I'm surprised you didn't find some quotes from Calypso Louis Farrakhan. So, just so I'm clear, Malcolm X was a militant Islamist terrorist, he used the word bamboozle, Obama used the word bamboozle, ergo Obama is a militant Islamist terrorist. Is that about right?

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    1. The parallels between the NOI and the Trinity United Church of Christ are reflective of Obama's formation.

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    2. Mark my words William, thinking like yours here is what will get Trump elected. Not Canadian Ted Cruz, and not anyone else. You don't see it of course, but you really aren't much different than people like X, Farrakhan and Rev. Wright. What you say here, I firmly believe, is a watered down version of things you say in discussion with like minded people. The fact you choose to take the complete opposite view than the people listed here is irrelevant. The end result is basically the same, which is to say a bitter screaming of militancy. I'll say it again, you may not like Trump the candidate, but anger like yours is what will get him elected.

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    3. Not Canadian Ted Cruz.

      Are you now a birther???

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    4. Senator Ted Cruz, was born in a Canadian hospital to a U.S. citizen mother.
      Despite the happenstance of a birth across the border, there is no question that Senator Cruz has been a citizen from birth and is thus a “natural born Citizen” within the meaning of the Constitution. Indeed, because his father had also been resident in the United States, Senator Cruz would have been a “natural born Citizen” even under the Naturalization Act of 1790. Similarly, in 2008, one of the two major party candidates for President, Senator John McCain, was born outside the United States on a U.S. military base in the Panama Canal Zone to a U.S. citizen parent.

      The requirements:
      To serve, an individual must be at least thirty-five years old and a “natural born Citizen.” Thirty-four and a half is not enough and, for better or worse, a naturalized citizen cannot serve.
      Congress has recognized since the Founding, a person born abroad to a U.S. citizen parent is generally a U.S. citizen from birth with no need for naturalization. And the phrase “natural born Citizen” in the Constitution encompasses all such citizens from birth. Thus, an individual born to a U.S. citizen parent — whether in California or Canada or the Canal Zone — is a U.S. citizen from birth and is fully eligible to serve as President if the people so choose.
      The Harvard Law review.

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    5. No, that's mostly just trolling for fun to see what it felt like for people claiming Obama wasn't born here. On a list of many things to invest in emotionally to fight against, Cruz's citizenship is not one of them. That said, I don't think his situation is really as cut and dried as he makes it out to be. It certainly goes right to the limit of the concept.

      We can fight over whether Obama's BC is legal, but that document states he was at least born on US soil. McCain's claim is fair enough I guess. If we are going to send families around the world, it doesn't seem right to not acknowledge their children as US citizens. Cruz's case, however, really isn't that neat and tidy. I'm really more entertained by it that someone who profoundly thinks he's right about everything is actually having to spend time talking about it. That's a defensive position and he's on that defensive solely because of Donald Trump, a man Cruz clearly admires.

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    6. I hadn't finished my post above until after you had posted that second piece. yeah, I get what it says, but if that's the case, why would it have mattered if Obama was born in Kenya? He claims he wasn't, and I'm willing to accept what the birth certificate says. But, I guess the case was really made that if he wasn't born in Hawaii, then he couldn't be POTUS.

      Again Lou, this is not my battle. I am merely enjoying the shit show because Cruz, to me, is a pompous asshole. I hold him in the same regard you hold Obama. The fact that he has to spend time defending himself amuses me, especially when it is because his idol, Trump, is causing the shit show.

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    7. I'm not angry at all max, not at all. I'm simply pointing out the correlations between various factions of the democrat constituency.

      I grew up during the era of Malcome X, and read all about his brand of hatred and love of Fidel. This is a much longer battle that one such as yourself who was born yesterday would care to admit.

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    8. The entirety of Malcolm X's life, William, also shows a near continuous evolvement of his views. You chide me for not acknowledging a longer history than what encompasses my life span, yet, you conveniently cherry pick things from what X said. In my lifetime, William, black people were still hung from trees. You have never, ever had to endure something like that. If the situations were reversed, I have no doubt you would not stand for it and I also have no doubt you would say and think as militantly as X did. You aren't angry today, but I'll remember this when in some upcoming conversation you call me an asshole while describing the cock of someone I obviously enjoy sucking. Just because you do by saying a__hole and c___sucker doesn't make it any less graphic.

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    9. I understand Malcome X. I don't have a problem with Malcome X. This thread is not about the evolution of Malcome X.

      This thread is about the formation of Obama. This tread is about his efforts to fundamentally change America. This tread is obviously above your head.

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    10. "This thread is about the formation of Obama."

      No, it's not about the formation of Obama. It's about cherry picking a bunch of quotes, slapping them against the wall, and saying that they describe Obama. You don't like Obama, and that's what this thread is about. It's not very complex.

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    11. You or I will not live long enough to see Obama ' s college transcripts. His eight years will be over in 12 months. It has been reported that he is angling for someone ( most likely he can't trust billy clinton) to cover up the lies and deceit. His roots like a hidden hand may influence government policy for decades to come.

      I realize that you do not want to think hard on the subject.

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    12. Obama's college transcript's?! This is important? So now we've gone from Obama is evil cause he quoted Malcolm X, but you really don't have a problem with X, but you do with Obama, and now I'm kind of an idiot because I don't understand that not seeing Obama's college transcripts is the KEY to unlocking whole riddle that is wrapped in an enigma.

      Conservatives think Obama is an asshole and a shitty POTUS. Fair enough. However, saying that is simply not good enough. Nope, we've got to explore these dark, nefarious plots that are meant to cut out the very roots of freedom. Any of us who reject the nonsense are just sheeple being lead to slaughter. George Bush's alleged party mongering and dodging of the Vietnam draft, as well as Dick Cheney's draft dodging were not things that kept me awake at night.

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    13. But Bush served part time, when he felt like it in the National Guard.

      That counts right???


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    14. Hey MAx.
      I would suggest that the modern president today has become a lightning rod for partisan sentiment. In large part because the modern presidency has become too prominent and far too powerful.

      The results of congress abdicating power to the president. That not only applies to Obama but to Bush, Clinton etc.

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    15. I think the POTUS is always a lightening rod and always takes shit. That part, I don't have as big a problem with. When Dan Rather tirelessly went after that story on Bush, I honestly thought, "Why?". it was clear why, but no matter what the outcome of that story, there was nothing good for the country in it, and I had no sympathy for Rather when he got disgraced for it. IMO, the minute someone actually gets in the office, it's time to shut the door and go forward because I believe that is in the best interest of the country. Our primaries have become no holds barred expose's into people's private lives. Not because we think it tells us something important TODAY, but solely because we can and because if we find some juicy shit, a candidate is easier to beat. I have nothing but contempt for people who embrace this process, they are mindless idiots.

      I agree on the abdication of power. No matter who is POTUS, they are going to start to work around congress if that congress lives for no other reason than to tell the POTUS to F off. And both Republicans and Democrats have done that since Bill Clinton was POTUS. The idea that jerry rigged contests should allow a tiny slice of the electorate to dictate terms to a nationally elected POTUS is ludicrous to me. Yet, I can't put all that on congress, not when voters show up like Easter and Christmas Christians to church. Gerrymandering heavily favors Republicans right now for the houses of congress, but they still do poorly when higher numbers of voters show up. If people can't be bothered to show up and vote, I'm not sure we should reward them with term limits.

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    16. Our primaries have become no holds barred expose's into people's private lives.

      And that is why we don't have the best qualified candidates for the office.

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    17. Yeah, I do agree with that Lou. I've never understood this obsession with what people did in college. What I care about is what is someone's outlook TODAY and what is their vision for the country. I would actually rather have a person who openly says they ahve made a lot of mistakes life and learned from them

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    18. The problem is the adversaries the media beating the people up before they hit the starting gate then after they are running. the saddest commentary was Romney beating a kid up at Cranbrook 50+ years ago or the dog on the roof story. Yet the media puts it out there and the opposition eats it up and floods the internet with the garbage.

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    19. My point is that Obama received a strong influence from acknowledged hard left ideologues.

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    20. And now we have Bernie Sanders, an anti capitalist, running in a dead heat in the Democrat first two polling tests with HRC.

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    21. "My point is that Obama received a strong influence from acknowledged hard left ideologues."

      And I was obsessed with Ayn Rand in my early 20's, and yet, today, you call me a communist. I probably know Ayn Rand much better than you do. Explain to me why, if everything we did in our 20's is sooooooooooo inescapable, how did I become a communist after being such a good capitalist water boy? And don't forget, I was indoctrinated with the Lutheran religion from kindergarten through 8th grade.

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    23. He attended the Rev Wright's church for 20 years max.

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    24. Wow. When it put it that way, it all suddenly fits into place. The country won't survive another year of his radicalism.

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    25. I hope Bernie makes it so you can vote for him.

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    26. I'd be happy to vote for Bernie, even you would probably grudgingly admit he's one of the few honest people in this race. As I said above though, William, I don't get this hostility that is so deep, that there can be nothing short of full scorched earth. It's not enough to just make your case why Hillary isn't fit to be POTUS, or why you disagree with Obama on policy. No, it has go multiple steps beyond to ensure that everyone understands they are lower than bacteria embedded in dog shit you stepped in. God help any Republican in office who so much as talks to a Democrat, let alone co sponsor a bill when there is agreement. Nothing short of full and utter rejection of any and all Democrats is acceptable. I just don't get that.

      When Trump is your choice on the Republican side William, this will be why.

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    27. I'm working to enhance Bernie ' s chances by denigrating HRC. You should thank me for that.

      I like Bernie. He's probably my favorite communist.

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    28. I THOUGHT I WAS YOUR FAVORITE COMMUNIST! DAMNIT!

      Not sure if you have been a Cruz fan since Carson started to come back to earth. Teddy Canuck kinda did Trump a YUGE favor with that crack about New York values.

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    29. Teddy knows he can't win New Yawk. So what's the downside? Fly over country loves anti City sentiment.

      And yes, Bernie has surpassed you currently as my favorite commie. He has that lovable pinko way about him and I get shiver down my leg when I think about him.

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