So, after looking at Mick's link on the fall in Democrats, I noticed this link http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/obama-mideast-vacuum-213513 It was a pretty interesting read. In the article, the author admits in no uncertain that he and the US got it dead wrong in Iraq, from top to bottom. He further acknowledges spin off conflicts that have grown from this. Yet, he indicates that even though Obama seemed to have the right opinion about our self created disaster in Iraq, he nonetheless should see Syria as being different.
His premise is that Obama is perhaps "overlearning" the lessons of the Iraq war in that he sees taking military action there as just another middle east quagmire that Iraq was. The author doesn't really make any solid suggestions of his own, other than saying we should engage in all sorts of half measures without actually committing large scale troops, which I think we are already pretty much doing. Further, he doesn't state what he believes the end game should be, which is a question that I would like answered from anybody who has an opinion on this.
In the midst of it, he seems a bit sad that neocon thinking is currently viewed as the posterchild for dysfunction. He doesn't seem to say it's not deserved based on Iraq, but, he seems to kind of think we need to have a debate wherein the neocons accept their shame and failure in a such manner that they are allowed to get out of the penalty box and once again drive our policy toward another war. As I read stories like this, I can't help but think another bad conflict is coming, but this time it is going to be against bigger players. Outside of Israel, I feel like it's fair to say that there is not a single nation over there who is truly our ally. The Saudi's are barbaric butchers only a few steps removed ISIL in my opinion. They want out money for their oil and they our troops to die for their political gain. Iran is certainly not an ally and while I genuinely believe they do not want to go to war with us, I do believe they will fuck with us every chance they get to propagandize their power at home. Russia? Syria? Egypt? Turkey? None of those countries are really allied with us either.
What I believe is going to happen eventually is that we are going to be jerked into fighting some war wherein the biggest gain will come not to us, but to some country who pawns us into doing their dirty work. In this country, the best we get for debate is why Obama is or isn't a pussy. I keep seeing little benefit in a large scale US involvement in Syria. Anybody else got some thoughts on that?