Trump is a showman; he is not presidential. He reminds me of President Comacho from "Idocracy". This may be what we are going to have to expect as presidents in the brave new world...
To be fair storm, what is presidential is decided by who votes. There seems to be a growing base of people who, IMO, believe like Maggie Thatcher that compromise is what happens when you have weak leadership. They seem to believe that the correct way to do anything is by basically creating a decisive winner and loser. They want to hear and believe that a new POTUS can simply walk in on day one and magically revoke every decision that had been made prior to their arrival. Trump, I think, I a master at realizing when there is an opportunity for himself and the current environment, created by those who do and DON'T vote, have created a perfect storm of opportunity for a guy like Trump to walk in and start punching people in the nose. He will likely overplay that opportunity, but not before making sure he has left his mark (stain?) on the entire process.
Despite his performance in the debate and the adverse reactions from the Republican establishment, Trump gained ground in todays polls. So the Republicans have a real dilemma, keep him on and let him continue to disrupt the nomination process or dump him and let him go Independent, taking away a big chunk of the right wing and pretty much guaranteeing a Republican loss in the general election. It's a lose-lose situation.
A Frankenstein Monster of their own doing. Too bad. I really thought Kasich and Rubio did well and are kinda being shouted down by a Twitter war that Trump was trying to wage with FOX.
Mick and pfunky.Can you help please. It is my understanding that about as many prospective voters are independents as there are Dem or Rebub members. This of course is vastly different to us in that we are far more polarized. So, what credibility would Trump have if he suddenly ran as an independent after declaring for the republicans?. The name Benedict Arnold comes to mind and I would think the Repub establishment would so consider the actions of Trump. Of equal importance perhaps is the question, Would the independents adopt Trump as a candidate given his history with the Repubs? If nothing else, your politics are fascinating to those of us outsiders as we press our noses to the window and look in. Cheers from Aussie
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@King -I think Max put it best when he said that Trump represents the cycle's "Fuck You" vote. He's the "Id" of the American electorate and I'm not sure that rational debate, context, or especially party allegiance matters much to a Trump supporter.Setting aside his confrontational (publicly calling the Chinese "motherfuckers"), racist (Mexicans are "rapists"), and sexist statements, his fundamental message of, "The people in D.C. are totally incompetent, I can do way better," really resonates with a lot of angry voters. This point is hammered home by his early success within the Pub primary process despite his long history of being a Clinton family supporter. And when he talks about how he's bought politicians and has used the nation's bankruptcy law to his benefit, all those voters go, "Wow! What a straight-shooter!"I think that Trump is too thin-skinned and says too many stupid things to remain a viable Pub candidate for too much longer, but I would never make the mistake of underestimating him. The man's far from stupid, and this may all be by design.My father is absolutely convinced that the Trump campaign is really a campaign donation his old pal, HRC - that it's the brainchild of The Donald & Bill that went down something like this: "Hey, instead of writing a check to you for $500 million, why don't I take that money and run a cartoonish campaign as a Republican? I'll make sure I piss off the most important voting blocks, women & Hispanics, and then I'll get into a Twitter war with the Republican media establishment. Then when I finally get bounced from the primary, I'll run as an Indie & split the Pub vote." Interesting theory, and it's totally cynical enough to have the full blessing of the Clintons ...
I am registered in Florida as an Independent and, as such, cannot vote in either the Republican or Democratic primary election. There is no unified Independent Party. If Trump becomes an Independent he will appear on the General Election ballot along with the Democrat and Republican candidates, and any other Independents. So, it is highly unlikely that he will get significant votes from the main-stream Independents who almost always vote for one of the major party candidates. What will happen is that he will attract his current following of extreme right wingers and little else. Anyway that is my opinion. Extreme left wingers will vote for the Democrat or not vote at all.
Mick and Pfunky.My thanks for the responses. Pfunky,I think your dad is a pretty good bloke, I can understand the reasoning behind his/ your argument and it does make sense in a political context. Think back through world wide political history at the occasions when red herrings were sent out by both parties of a nation in an election campaign. I cannot see how Trump can win on either count and Mick bears this out with his post. Divide and conquer looks like being a winner here and HRC and her appendage have mastered this particular black art to the nth degree. Again my thanks and I wonder what William thinks on this matter?
The new Republican top seven are:Post-Debate Poll (NBC) Trump 23% Cruz 13% Carson 11% Fiorina 8% Rubio 8% Bush 7% Walker 7%
Didn't fox ditch the NBC/WSJ poll so they could kick Perry off the stage and let Kasich in?
I think Perry is out for good, just read that he has stopped paying his staff.