Tuesday, April 21, 2015

What About This One?

From Bloomberg American Politics:


This is the latest installment of "Whoa, If True," an occasional look at the conspiracy theories that migrate from the wilds of the Internet to the well-covered tundra of presidential campaigns.


Of all the secret organizations that allegedly rule the world, the Bilderberg Group is the worst at hiding. Founded 61 years ago as an exclusive conference for European and American elites—a Davos without press passes—the Group insisted that its secrecy allowed world leaders and economists to speak plainly. Doubters asked whether the secrecy really was meant to turn eyes away as the New World Order's dictates were hammered out.


Just a decade into the Group's life, right-wingers from the John Birch Society to the Eagle Forum were speculating that the Republican Party's moderates were being directed by the Bilderbergers. (The secret rulers of the world best at hiding are the Reptilians.)


Today, the ever-spurting founts of Bilderberger panic are the radio show and web sites hosted by Alex Jones. The Texas-based host has brought his show and camera crew to Bilderberg sites whenever possible, going so far as to denounce them through a bullhorn.
"We know you are ruthless," Jones told Bilderbergers in 2008. "We know you are evil. We respect your dark power."

On Monday, a writer for Jones's InfoWars web site noted that former Florida Governor Jeb Bush would be traveling to Europe in "early June." It so happened that the 2015 Bilderberg Group meeting would occur from June 11-14 in Austria. Just as Barack Obama "infamously disappeared to a secret location with Hillary Clinton in June 2008 in Northern Virginia, at precisely the same time and location the Bilderberg Group were convening in Chantilly," it was possible—possible!—that Bush was going to the Interalpen Hotel to be ordained as the next president.

7 comments:

  1. Given that the FBI had no idea of the depth and breadth of the mafia until 1960 where they, with the help of an insider found a huge underworld organization... hiding in plain sight.

    While I won't speculate on the true nature of the Bilderberg, the ability of some to discount collusion among power people in pursuit of yet more power is somewhat amazing to me.... I mean the Tuskegee Syphilis Study, the black flag planning of operation northwoods, even iran contra which operated for 2 years before it was uncovered were all conspiracy before they weren’t. Call me a cynic but I one thing I have learned is to never say never…..


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  2. the Bilderberg Group was formed to help Europeans and Americans have a better understanding of each other. That's all. That's what they do. They certainly don't "coronate" the American President. The Bush campaign has denied that he is attending. InfoWars is an example of the use of the internet to influence people through misinformation and outright fabrication. As someone said a long time ago, a lie is as good as the truth if you can get people to believe it.

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    1. Social Security was an insurance policy... as retirement subsity too... things matastize and take on a life of their own. Like I said, I won't speculate on the true nature of the group... but I, unlike many wouldn't be surprised if its intentions today weren't just a bit different than when it was founded...

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    2. I think world leaders need a time and place to talk without the media. Some things just cannot be said in public.
      Social security is still an insurance policy and a retirement subsidy. The only things that have changed is #1 it subsidizes a 401 K which woefully too many people don't have instead of a pension which everyone had at one time, #2 less people pay into it then needed because the largest demographic group in the history of the country , the boomers are now retiring. Had the law not have been written to allow the government to spend the surplus SS would be just fine. SS is no different then any other retirement plan except that the money has been spent. All retirement plans are suffering today as more retirees get what is justly theirs, as less people pay into the plan. That ship will right itself over time. Not to mention when SS started people lived to be 75, people now live to be 85-90. Who could have known that in 1935.

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    3. I’m not talking about the stability of Social Security Rick… I am talking about the dependence on it. Pretty much everyone who is 65 and older receives Social Security… that to be expected as pretty much everyone paid into it. Social Security has consistently provided more than a third of income for all retirees over the past two decades.. that in itself stretches the supplement definition but retirees in the lowest income quintile which is considerable, received more than 80 percent of their income from Social Security. Rather than incentivizing prudent saving once again the government a assumed the nanny roll and Americans have become that much less self sufficient.

      The thing I find interesting is that statically government employees are considerably higher paid than their civilian counterparts yet… they couldn’t see the demographic changes happening right before their eyes. The boomer bulge was pretty much over in ’63 yet somehow in the 80’s and 90’s we are taken by surprise. We have had a steady rise in life expectancy since 1850 and even if they had taken statistics from 1850 to 1930 into account they would have seen a 62% rise in the average life and if, at the same time they were studying the boomer population, they would have seen an almost doubling of the life span. Of course as usual, we created another government solution.. the 401K, tied directly to a stock market and just as changeable and unpredictable is any other federal program. Its New Deal run amuck.

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  3. Perhaps too many people reading Robert Ludlum and the Inver Brass fiction. There is so much rubbish posted in cyber space and the demand is fuelled by what appears to be an ever increasing number of gullible folks prepared to believe the rubbish.
    Currently running on this site are topics including the army exercising in or near public parks and the connotation that there is something amiss with the practice. A comparison between Kings and Presidents which is so inaccurate it is laughable.
    I realize politics in you country is different to mine. There appears to be a mind set that if you tell the same lie often enough then people will believe it. For proof look to Watergate and Monica. In both cases it was the media which fleshed the truth. The Scot berates the media but only as long as the media behaves in a manner considered by TS to be unfair to one particular political party.
    I am by nature inquisitive and therefore can be argumentative as TS suggests. What I try to do in a very imperfect way is to learn every day and develop a better understanding of America in the present day. I am fortunate in having a reasonable understanding of your country as it once was. Somehow I think William may have a point and we should be able to go back to 1776 and bring forward that which the great ones invented and their successors tarnished. Of course the second would be left in the past where it once served as a useful tool!.

    Cheers from Aussie

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    1. “There is so much rubbish posted in cyber space and the demand is fuelled by what appears to be an ever increasing number of gullible folks prepared to believe the rubbish.”
      Yeah… like the multitude of sites dedicated to the glorification and idealization of some of the slimiest politicians on the planet… people have soaked up the Clinton story for years and it pains them so to have the real story of these saints told… point out the specific lies told by these various sites and we will debate the detail….
      Comparison of king and president…. Hum… a political site and you frown on that discussion? I didn’t see any responses to the points given… perhaps any response is beneath your dignity.

      Obviously your news view is from afar… Apparently your news isn’t reporting the all to regular stories of special ops units repealing out of Blackhawk helicopters in the middle of urban areas all over this US. Nor probably did they bother to cover the Bush incursion into the long standing Posse Comitatus Act whereby for the first time since the civil war US military troops will take an active role under homeland security in policing when the federal government deems it necessary. And I would take exception to your characterization that somehow ‘practicing in or near public parks’ is so benign when part of the purpose and function is for American soldiers to blend in to American communities…. This ain’t Bagdad you know… and probably the general population of the US military couldn’t blend in to many communities on this planet… except for the western ones…

      By in large King, I berate the media on most scores…. The stories you point out are old history in Washington antics and no one really cared that Clinton was under oath anyway. Not once in this presidency or the last has the media held the administrations to account… of course I do understand why. Some access is better than no access at all even if your report is a known fabrication just to hold your prestigious seat in the White House press room. Show me press with good facts and I will acknowledge that, but as long as lies and fabrication pass as truth, I will have a problem… By the way, which political party is it that I defend? I might follow libertarian principles but the libertarian party is way too disorganized to actually get anyone elected….

      Being inquisitive is one thing… inquisitive is nonjudgmentally absorbing information. You however plays your own quite game of mudslinging… chiding people but rarely giving clear answers as to what you feel and understand… and at the same time saying that you are trying to ‘understand’ present day America while telling people that you are a better judge of its state of affairs than they…

      Why don’t you enlighten us with a clear dissertation as to what a ‘modern’ America looks like.. what responsibilities you hold are clearly evident in the life of a citizen in this ‘modern’ America and just what powers a government should have over its people and just what dictates the limits of those powers….

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