Wednesday, January 2, 2013
Gun Ban
Illinois to ban all guns except muskets even pump action shotguns will be illegal.
THis will mirror Feinstein's legislation.
Based on what we know about Cullerton’s bill, firearms that would be banned include all semiautomatic rifles, pistols, and shotguns. Pump action shotguns would be banned as well. This would be a very comprehensive ban that would include not only so-called ‘assault weapons’ but also such classics as M1 Garands and 1911-based pistols. There would be no exemptions and no grandfathering. You would have a very short window to turn in your guns to the State Police to avoid prosecution.
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This doesn't sound like it would stand up to a Supreme Court review.
ReplyDeleteStormy
ReplyDeleteThink not of the Supreme Court, but think of the children recenty slaughtered. With that in mind,I would think public opinion would drown out the opposition from the crazies
Think of the MILLIONS who have been saved/protected/spared because of having a gun ... so many more Kingston because of having a gun - now, go ahead a lay down your arms and allow your governemtn the ability to do what ever they will but stay out of our politics....
DeleteMy thanks for the response. Are you afraid of foreigners looking at your history, your culture and your politics? Some do so to gloat at the corpse of a failing state, some at the picture you paint of yourselves as God fearing, never say die go getters, the leaders of the world.
DeleteI on the other hand look to your country from an historical perspective. We were settled by the British as a Penal Colony at about the time of your Declaration of Independence. Therefore you had approx 200 years of history behind you (Jamestown 1607) when we started to build ours.
The Philadelphia Convention of 1787 is a good place to start in this study and comparison. That you chose to adopt a system so different from the Westminster system is, in retrospect, a good path and was probably inevitable given the feelings of the times.
I can also see the need for and the reason the 2nd provided for a “Militia" in view of the Constitutional prohibition of a standing army. My opposition to guns in the community is based on personal experience and my reading of your history. I will not recant these views but I am prepared to debate them at any time; particularly with someone who appears to be so insecure that you demand a friend of America butt out of your politics.
Cheers from Aussie
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DeleteWe don't have any guns, and I don't foresee us ever purchasing any. The ONLY reason would be for protection, but I do not envision that. Other than somewhat of a small sense of 'having done SOMETHING!' to minimize the horror of Newtown, this legislation is, at best, a speedbump for the sick-minded in their quest to wreak misery with firearms, assault-type or any other, I think.
ReplyDeleteIt's a stupid, reactionary, poorly thought piece of legislation.
Jean
ReplyDeleteJean
"It's a stupid, reactionary, poorly thought piece of legislation." you may well be correct;it is however a START and therefore is surely to be applauded. I note your lack of guns or the intention to buy one. I believe you are but one of the majority in your country. Why should you,unarmed and innocent not be free of the horror which is the pointy end of a gun in the wrong hands?.
And a happy new year to you as well.
Cheers from Aussie
Kingston,
DeleteI don't have a problem with restricting assault-type weapons, with the proviso and concern that is may serve to open the door for more intrusive restrictions. I also note that if we were living elsewhere, especially in a more isolated environment, we might view the need for a firearm differently.
Jean
It would be nice to someday see this country attempt to solve a problem by something other then an all or none solution. The conservatives want all or nothing solutions on fiscal matters, and now we have a liberal approach of saying lets take all guns away. Meanwhile, lets ignore completely the behaviors the lead to such problems. This is not at all unlike the claims that we should round up every single illegal Mexican in this country and send them home. It's not realistic and prevents meaningful changes from being considered.
ReplyDeleteIt's another lie folks. From this mornings Journal Register:
ReplyDeleteOver the objections of gun-rights advocates, bills banning assault weapons and large-capacity magazines were approved by an Illinois Senate committee Wednesday night and sent to the full chamber.
House Bill 1263 bans the possession and sale of semi-automatic assault weapons, and House Bill 815 bans the possession and sale of large-capacity ammunition magazines.
Both bills are in response to the December school shootings in Connecticut.
http://www.sj-r.com/thedome/x1665856929/Illinois-Senate-committee-approves-bans-on-guns-clips
ReplyDeletepeople against guns are under the delusion that America will never have food riots, that there will never any other catastrophe, that martial law will never be declared and that the Government will protect and feed all of its citizens.
ReplyDeleteOne day Americans will need guns for food, for defense of family and property. Take those guns away now and what are you going to do when you need one?
“One day Americans will need guns for food, for defense of family and property”.
ReplyDeleteL>S Are you postulating civil unrest and revolution in your great country?
Can I hear the explosions again from Fort Sumter or witness the bloodshed at Gettysburg? Surely history will have taught you enough that a repeat could never be tolerated.
My friend, as America becomes more mature, I trust her citizens will learn the value of the freedoms you have espoused for over two centuries. It does appear to an outside observer that "freedom" is more an ideal than a reality for so many. Every man who owns a gun carries with it the possibility of domination over those who choose not to own one. Is this the freedom contained within the idealistic and grandiose speeches and documents I read in my study of your history?
Cheers from Aussie
King, I read so many inane things in your statement above I find it hard to know where to start. At times I say to myself why bother, the gap between your upbringing and mine reduces the chance of your ever gaining a working understanding of a revolutionary society is next to nil.
DeleteKing, we live our beliefs, our ideals of freedom. That's what makes them work. Our founders laid out our rights to help prevent our needing to shed blood, not shed it. We believe in the people retaining our God given rights. What no one knows, including you, is when a national tyrant will emerge and display a level of evil that will make the evil exhibited in Sandy Hook pale by comparison.
Sorry to hear about your local fires.
Banning the sale of semiautomatic assault weapons and extra large ammo clips does not equate to taking peoples guns away except in the minds of delusional paranoids. I am not opposed to gun ownership, in fact I own two rifles, a shotgun, a piston and a Daisy BB gun. I do not suffer from the delusion that I will ever need them to protect myself from my government.
ReplyDeleteJust a small note here.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the FBI annual crime statistics, the number of murders committed annually with hammers and clubs far outnumbers the number of murders committed with a rifle.
This is an interesting fact, particularly amid the Democrats' feverish push to ban many different rifles, ostensibly to keep us safe of course
Read more: http://nation.foxnews.com/gun-rights/2013/01/03/fbi-more-people-killed-hammers-clubs-each-year-rifles#ixzz2H11mNzMQ
Rojayalso,
DeleteI think the outcry stems more from the ability to mass-murder in short order, and (horrifically) to riddle those tiny bodies with many bullets. Hurts to type this up. Are there some politics involved? Undoubtedly.
Jean
Jean
DeleteUnfortunately these few horrific acts of mass murder by obviously mentally sick people are being exploited for a political agenda.
Jean and Rojay.
DeletePolitical influence? It does seem possible but would you both be prepared to expand on your posts please. It seems that a more rational discussion is developing this time around, which is good.
As an aside, you may hear reports of very severe bush fires here in Tasmania, All true but although close to the capital, all are alive but there is one missing. Damage is severe but compared to the last big one (55 burnt to death and a complete town destroyed) we are OK.
Cheers friends from Aussie