Conservative logic is a kind of reasoning which, due to multiple reasons (including excessive stereotyping, denying confirmed Facts or misunderstanding the issues in question), leads to incorrect arguments. While arguments derived from Conservative Logic are deceitfully attractive to other conservatives or badly-informed People, they will inevitably appear incorrect or nonsensical to a sane eye. Here is a list of examples : 1. Frequent reliance on erroneous reasoning, as in demanding guns be available to everyone where in fact the Bill of Rights was written in 1789, and should be viewed in context of arms available during the 18th Century; back then, nearly everyone had the same type of weaponry, as nowadays, the military far outclasses the civilian population in weapons technology; 2. Often responding to a logical question with an unrelated, deceitful, and illogical response, such as "Why is classroom prayer good for America?" "Jesus likes it!"; 3. Claiming that switching from being liberal to conservative is natural, but switching back is somehow impossible; 4. Blaming any diseases, problems in the world or even sports failures, no matter their nature, on homosexuals, liberals and feminists; 5. Believing that global warming is a "hoax" or a "conspiracy", despite existence of a conspiracy of such a scale being impossible or evidence to the contrary; 6. Believing that creationism is true and evolution is false, despite evidence to the contrary in many fields of science; 7. Believing that any tragic events (mass shootings, terror attacks) are caused by the Non-Christians who didn't pray to Jesus; 8. Believing that Atheists, Agnostics, and Secularists are people of "darkness" or lack moral values; 9. Believing that Muslims are more likely to be terrorists, despite the fact that most terrorists through out history were not Muslims; 10. Believing that Christians are the greatest minority under assault, despite the fact that they're the majority of the population; 11. Believing that Obama is a Muslim, despite the fact that he admitted that he's a Christian; 12. Believing that Democrats think guns are evil; 13. Believing that the GOP was always conservative; 14. Believing that the US constitution is based on the Bible, despite the fact that Christianity is never mentioned in the constitution; 15. Believing that liberals are intolerant because they don't tolerate homophobia, racism, and other forms of bigotry from the right wing; 16. Believing that the planet isn't at risk of overpopulation, despite the fact that our forests are getting smaller; 17. Believing that the Wiccan religion is evil; 18. Believing that Atheism is a religion (just like off is a TV channel); 19. Believing that being gay is a choice, despite evidence to the contrary from most psychologists; 20. Believing that anything that isn't on Fox News is "liberal propaganda" -- sometimes this may extend to Fox News, too; 21. Believing that pollution isn't a major issue; 22. Believing that cannabis is highly addictive, despite research[1] that states the contrary. 23. Believing that pornography and masturbation each is a "sin". 24. Believing that the First Amendment only applies to Christians. 25. Believing that tokenism can gain minority votes. 26. Believing that allowing gays in the Boy Scouts promotes sexual abuse. 27. Believing that the "Family Research Council" isn't a hate group. 28. Believing that the first amendment grants freedom of religious indoctrination, fundamentalism, and extremism.
(Note: This is a response to the article Liberal logic on CP.)
Both present arguments to their faithful and they buy it hook line and sinker.
I could present a similar list for the Beliefs of Liberal/progressives however your list suffices for the proof positive of how much hate exists between the 2 parties.
The best, progressives/repubs believe they are always right and never need to question the party. As your post proves.
I don't know who composed it William, there are thousands of these on the internet and they are all equally mind dead. Iouman hits the nail on the head, things like this are best ignored if you are serious about your politics. Let's discuss reality not mindless drivel like this.
Mick, the sad part is there is a mindless segment of America willing to believe anything that comes from their favorite news, internet source. The same falls to the people who listen to Rush. Some take him seriously, others see it as entertainment, in one ear out the other.
When you are part of the richest nation in the world with a revolutionary history stretching back over 200 years, you must be different to all the other nations. Not for you the rational debate and the reasoned but polite exchanges in the letters column in the Times or the Guardian of the UK. Not for America the gentle cut and thrust with rapiers for intellects.
Your people appear to eschew civility in political debates and use a broadsword or a fowling piece loaded with rusty nails to demolish those who have the temerity to oppose your political viewpoint. Recently there have been several illustrations posted here by various members who wish to prove a point, or rather, denigrate the side of politics which opposes their own strongly held beliefs.
Over the past decade we have seen a sinister change here in Australia. With the 24 hour news service and instant access to world events via satellite we get a running commentary of events in the US. We also on rare occasions get shownUS advertisements in order that we may learn how it is done!!. These ads are not for educational purposes but shock treatment to demonstrate just how far down the sewer American politics has fallen and to warn us that we too are heading in the same direction.
The pictures of HRC and Margaret Sanger posted by William some days back is something which would never be published here, even as an illustration of a political add. What it does illustrate however is the cleverness of the people producing something which generates a mass reaction; loathing or support for the participants is the outcome and even 12000 miles away, a foreigner was sufficiently offended to respond angrily to a friend.
I apologize to William for my reaction, my views are sincerely held but it is not my place to inflict my version of morality onto my American friends.
Liberal logic = Oxymoron.
ReplyDeleteIn the interest of equal time for the other side:
ReplyDeleteConservative logic is a kind of reasoning which, due to multiple reasons (including excessive stereotyping, denying confirmed Facts or misunderstanding the issues in question), leads to incorrect arguments. While arguments derived from Conservative Logic are deceitfully attractive to other conservatives or badly-informed People, they will inevitably appear incorrect or nonsensical to a sane eye. Here is a list of examples
:
1. Frequent reliance on erroneous reasoning, as in demanding guns be available to everyone where in fact the Bill of Rights was written in 1789, and should be viewed in context of arms available during the 18th Century; back then, nearly everyone had the same type of weaponry, as nowadays, the military far outclasses the civilian population in weapons technology;
2. Often responding to a logical question with an unrelated, deceitful, and illogical response, such as "Why is classroom prayer good for America?" "Jesus likes it!";
3. Claiming that switching from being liberal to conservative is natural, but switching back is somehow impossible;
4. Blaming any diseases, problems in the world or even sports failures, no matter their nature, on homosexuals, liberals and feminists;
5. Believing that global warming is a "hoax" or a "conspiracy", despite existence of a conspiracy of such a scale being impossible or evidence to the contrary;
6. Believing that creationism is true and evolution is false, despite evidence to the contrary in many fields of science;
7. Believing that any tragic events (mass shootings, terror attacks) are caused by the Non-Christians who didn't pray to Jesus;
8. Believing that Atheists, Agnostics, and Secularists are people of "darkness" or lack moral values;
9. Believing that Muslims are more likely to be terrorists, despite the fact that most terrorists through out history were not Muslims;
10. Believing that Christians are the greatest minority under assault, despite the fact that they're the majority of the population;
11. Believing that Obama is a Muslim, despite the fact that he admitted that he's a Christian;
12. Believing that Democrats think guns are evil;
13. Believing that the GOP was always conservative;
14. Believing that the US constitution is based on the Bible, despite the fact that Christianity is never mentioned in the constitution;
15. Believing that liberals are intolerant because they don't tolerate homophobia, racism, and other forms of bigotry from the right wing;
16. Believing that the planet isn't at risk of overpopulation, despite the fact that our forests are getting smaller;
17. Believing that the Wiccan religion is evil;
18. Believing that Atheism is a religion (just like off is a TV channel);
19. Believing that being gay is a choice, despite evidence to the contrary from most psychologists;
20. Believing that anything that isn't on Fox News is "liberal propaganda" -- sometimes this may extend to Fox News, too;
21. Believing that pollution isn't a major issue;
22. Believing that cannabis is highly addictive, despite research[1] that states the contrary.
23. Believing that pornography and masturbation each is a "sin".
24. Believing that the First Amendment only applies to Christians.
25. Believing that tokenism can gain minority votes.
26. Believing that allowing gays in the Boy Scouts promotes sexual abuse.
27. Believing that the "Family Research Council" isn't a hate group.
28. Believing that the first amendment grants freedom of religious indoctrination, fundamentalism, and extremism.
(Note: This is a response to the article Liberal logic on CP.)
In the interest of equal time.
DeleteBoth parties are exactly the same.
Both present arguments to their faithful and they buy it hook line and sinker.
I could present a similar list for the Beliefs of Liberal/progressives however your list suffices for the proof positive of how much hate exists between the 2 parties.
The best, progressives/repubs believe they are always right and never need to question the party. As your post proves.
What a hoot! #17 what a fucking hoot!
DeleteDid rolling dude compose this bildge?
I don't know who composed it William, there are thousands of these on the internet and they are all equally mind dead. Iouman hits the nail on the head, things like this are best ignored if you are serious about your politics. Let's discuss reality not mindless drivel like this.
DeleteMick, the sad part is there is a mindless segment of America willing to believe anything that comes from their favorite news, internet source. The same falls to the people who listen to Rush. Some take him seriously, others see it as entertainment, in one ear out the other.
DeleteWhen you are part of the richest nation in the world with a revolutionary history stretching back over 200 years, you must be different to all the other nations. Not for you the rational debate and the reasoned but polite exchanges in the letters column in the Times or the Guardian of the UK. Not for America the gentle cut and thrust with rapiers for intellects.
ReplyDeleteYour people appear to eschew civility in political debates and use a broadsword or a fowling piece loaded with rusty nails to demolish those who have the temerity to oppose your political viewpoint. Recently there have been several illustrations posted here by various members who wish to prove a point, or rather, denigrate the side of politics which opposes their own strongly held beliefs.
Over the past decade we have seen a sinister change here in Australia. With the 24 hour news service and instant access to world events via satellite we get a running commentary of events in the US. We also on rare occasions get shownUS advertisements in order that we may learn how it is done!!. These ads are not for educational purposes but shock treatment to demonstrate just how far down the sewer American politics has fallen and to warn us that we too are heading in the same direction.
The pictures of HRC and Margaret Sanger posted by William some days back is something which would never be published here, even as an illustration of a political add. What it does illustrate however is the cleverness of the people producing something which generates a mass reaction; loathing or support for the participants is the outcome and even 12000 miles away, a foreigner was sufficiently offended to respond angrily to a friend.
I apologize to William for my reaction, my views are sincerely held but it is not my place to inflict my version of morality onto my American friends.
Cheers from Aussie
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