The U.S. Chamber of Commerce early next year plans to roll out an aggressive effort—expected to cost at least $50 million—to support establishment, business-friendly candidates in primaries and the general election, with an aim of trying to win a Republican Senate majority.
"Our No. 1 focus is to make sure, when it comes to the Senate, that we have no loser candidates," said the business group's top political strategist, Scott Reed. "That will be our mantra: No fools on our ticket."
And at least some of that money the Chamber spends will be foreign money that they swear is not fungible with US donations. For all of your cut and paste raging against liberalism William, it's interesting that the real and most direct assault will come from a right leaning organization. When I've mentioned that there are areas of agreement between lefties and the Tea Party, you have dismissed that as preposterous.
The Tea Party scorched earth method of governance has started to reach into the wallets of well entrenched groups who feed on the tax payer, groups that are right leaning that are getting rich off the military industrial complex. Bringing cuts or at the very least, some accountability to the spending on the military is something that Tea Party types could easily find support from the left on. A proclivity of the right and very far right, however, is that they must do everything on their own. For the Tea Party, it's a blue meth purity that they must just say no to everything. For the Republicans, it's the Denny Hastert rule that only bills that have the support of the majority of the majority can be brought for vote.
If the Tea Party stays home in defiance, that would ultimately benefit the Democrats. Whether they can vote for their candidates or not, the Tea Party will still show up to vote Republican and the historical trends of the White House party losing seats will continue. It's not rocket science.
Obamacare all by itself will take the Senate away from the Dems and add to the House even more Pubs. Obamas ability to pick and choose what he wants and doesn't want in the law will further bolster the Pub victories. Even the MSM will change its tune
The message appears to be rippling through the defense industry, where officials are voicing increasing resentment with tea party-aligned Republicans.
"There's definitely frustration within the defense community, and the frustration goes to tea partiers who are emphasizing cuts without internalizing the harm," said Roger Zakheim, an attorney at Covington & Burling LLP who served until October as general counsel for the House Armed Services Committee. "At times, our respective leaders in both branches have essentially allowed, and continue to allow, the military to be a pawn in the greater debate."
Karl Rove, the voice of the Republican donor class, is predicting that tea party-backed primary candidates will lose nearly all their primary fights against business-backed GOP politicians during 2014.
Are you kidding me!? Listen, you all know me. I say what I mean and I mean what I say. I'm as conservative as anybody around this place. And all the things that we've done over the three years that I've been speaker have not violated any conservative principle. Not once.
You're going to be very lonely next November John.
John Boehner gets it. The Tea Party has pushed so hard that people are tired of their bullshit, no compromise, my way or the highway attitudes. They are being exposed for what they are far right fanatics, and I say again we are a centrist country. Far left and far right groups can only go so far and they lose support. Tea Party has probably crossed that line.
"-Tea Party members aren’t just opposing Mitt Romney on ideological grounds; they also don’t think his nomination is the best route to beating Obama. Tea Party supporters differ from other Republicans both in the extent to which they view a Republican victory as likely, and about which candidate is likely to make that happen. During Newt Gingrich’s first presidential boomlet in December, PPP asked respondents about what they thought would happen in a race between Gingrich and President Obama and Romney and Obama. Among Republican Tea Party supporters, 47% thought that either candidate could defeat Obama, 21% thought neither could, 7% thought only Romney could, and 25% thought only Gingrich could. Combined, this means that 72% of Tea Party supporters thought Gingrich could beat Obama, compared to just 54% for Romney. Among other Republicans 40% thought Romney can win, and only 35% thought Gingrich can win. Notably, on the Democratic side, there is a much greater consensus on President Obama’s electoral chances, with 84% of liberal Democrats thinking he is likely to win, compared to 81% of other Democrats.
Conventional wisdom would have us believe that ideologically committed voters downplay electability in favor of principle when selecting candidates–how else could Republicans have nominated Christine O’Donnell in Delaware or Sharron Angle in Nevada for the Senate in 2010? However, this doesn’t appear to be the case, as Tea Party supporters perhaps think that a more ideologically pure candidate provides a better contrast with President Obama or that a silent majority supports their position. Either way, we shouldn’t expect Tea Party supporters to abandon a Republican candidate because people outside the movement don’t think that he is electable. They’ll keep supporting anyone but Romney as their best chance to defeat Obama."
Nice cut and paste from an obviously biased website. Well hang on to your nuts because in early polling only Chris Christie has a legitimate shot at beating Hilary Clinton. What I like about that is with Chris Christie you still lose, he's moderate or to beat a dead horse once again center right. One day you guys will figure it out.
And why are you comparing any tea party candidate with Obama. He can't run again so that makes him pretty easy to beat. I realize this little tidbit is from the last election but my friend you all would have voted for anybody but Obama. That was quite obvious in your fiasco of a primary.
The U.S. Chamber of Commerce early next year plans to roll out an aggressive effort—expected to cost at least $50 million—to support establishment, business-friendly candidates in primaries and the general election, with an aim of trying to win a Republican Senate majority.
ReplyDelete"Our No. 1 focus is to make sure, when it comes to the Senate, that we have no loser candidates," said the business group's top political strategist, Scott Reed. "That will be our mantra: No fools on our ticket."
And at least some of that money the Chamber spends will be foreign money that they swear is not fungible with US donations. For all of your cut and paste raging against liberalism William, it's interesting that the real and most direct assault will come from a right leaning organization. When I've mentioned that there are areas of agreement between lefties and the Tea Party, you have dismissed that as preposterous.
DeleteThe Tea Party scorched earth method of governance has started to reach into the wallets of well entrenched groups who feed on the tax payer, groups that are right leaning that are getting rich off the military industrial complex. Bringing cuts or at the very least, some accountability to the spending on the military is something that Tea Party types could easily find support from the left on. A proclivity of the right and very far right, however, is that they must do everything on their own. For the Tea Party, it's a blue meth purity that they must just say no to everything. For the Republicans, it's the Denny Hastert rule that only bills that have the support of the majority of the majority can be brought for vote.
If the Tea Party stays home in defiance, that would ultimately benefit the Democrats. Whether they can vote for their candidates or not, the Tea Party will still show up to vote Republican and the historical trends of the White House party losing seats will continue. It's not rocket science.
Obamacare all by itself will take the Senate away from the Dems and add to the House even more Pubs. Obamas ability to pick and choose what he wants and doesn't want in the law will further bolster the Pub victories. Even the MSM will change its tune
DeleteThe Tea Party is not governing anything Max. The DemPubs continue to max out the credit card with 17T moving towards 20T.
DeleteMovements are long, not concerned with the next one or two elections.
The Teas sit in 2014, Boehner fronts a week house, Reid the senate zombies. Eunuch BO plays more golf.
Sublime gridlock.
The message appears to be rippling through the defense industry, where officials are voicing increasing resentment with tea party-aligned Republicans.
ReplyDelete"There's definitely frustration within the defense community, and the frustration goes to tea partiers who are emphasizing cuts without internalizing the harm," said Roger Zakheim, an attorney at Covington & Burling LLP who served until October as general counsel for the House Armed Services Committee. "At times, our respective leaders in both branches have essentially allowed, and continue to allow, the military to be a pawn in the greater debate."
Karl Rove, the voice of the Republican donor class, is predicting that tea party-backed primary candidates will lose nearly all their primary fights against business-backed GOP politicians during 2014.
ReplyDeleteIt appears that big GOP is back and ready to flex it's muscles.
DeleteCould be that the Tea Party sits 2014 out in the spirit of divided government.
1773-2009 we've all seen this movie before.
Boehner Attacks Again: Tea Party Groups Have "Lost All Credibility"
DeleteAre you kidding me!? Listen, you all know me. I say what I mean and I mean what I say. I'm as conservative as anybody around this place. And all the things that we've done over the three years that I've been speaker have not violated any conservative principle. Not once.
DeleteYou're going to be very lonely next November John.
John Boehner gets it. The Tea Party has pushed so hard that people are tired of their bullshit, no compromise, my way or the highway attitudes. They are being exposed for what they are far right fanatics, and I say again we are a centrist country. Far left and far right groups can only go so far and they lose support. Tea Party has probably crossed that line.
ReplyDeleteIt happened with Romney in 2012:
ReplyDelete"-Tea Party members aren’t just opposing Mitt Romney on ideological grounds; they also don’t think his nomination is the best route to beating Obama. Tea Party supporters differ from other Republicans both in the extent to which they view a Republican victory as likely, and about which candidate is likely to make that happen. During Newt Gingrich’s first presidential boomlet in December, PPP asked respondents about what they thought would happen in a race between Gingrich and President Obama and Romney and Obama. Among Republican Tea Party supporters, 47% thought that either candidate could defeat Obama, 21% thought neither could, 7% thought only Romney could, and 25% thought only Gingrich could. Combined, this means that 72% of Tea Party supporters thought Gingrich could beat Obama, compared to just 54% for Romney. Among other Republicans 40% thought Romney can win, and only 35% thought Gingrich can win. Notably, on the Democratic side, there is a much greater consensus on President Obama’s electoral chances, with 84% of liberal Democrats thinking he is likely to win, compared to 81% of other Democrats.
Conventional wisdom would have us believe that ideologically committed voters downplay electability in favor of principle when selecting candidates–how else could Republicans have nominated Christine O’Donnell in Delaware or Sharron Angle in Nevada for the Senate in 2010? However, this doesn’t appear to be the case, as Tea Party supporters perhaps think that a more ideologically pure candidate provides a better contrast with President Obama or that a silent majority supports their position. Either way, we shouldn’t expect Tea Party supporters to abandon a Republican candidate because people outside the movement don’t think that he is electable. They’ll keep supporting anyone but Romney as their best chance to defeat Obama."
http://mobilizingideas.wordpress.com/2012/02/01/tea-party-republicans-what-the-polls-say/
Nice cut and paste from an obviously biased website. Well hang on to your nuts because in early polling only Chris Christie has a legitimate shot at beating Hilary Clinton. What I like about that is with Chris Christie you still lose, he's moderate or to beat a dead horse once again center right. One day you guys will figure it out.
ReplyDeleteOff topic, we're talking about sitting out 2014.
DeleteAnd why are you comparing any tea party candidate with Obama. He can't run again so that makes him pretty easy to beat. I realize this little tidbit is from the last election but my friend you all would have voted for anybody but Obama. That was quite obvious in your fiasco of a primary.
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