Thursday, June 13, 2013

Obama ‘Strongly Objects’ to Religious Liberty Amendment

The Obama Administration “strongly objects” to a proposed amendment to the National Defense Authorization Act on Wednesday that would have protected the religious rights of soldiers – including evangelical Christian service members who are facing growing hostility towards their religion.
The amendment was authored by Rep. John Fleming, R-La. It would have “required the Armed Forces to accommodate ‘actions and speech’ reflecting the conscience, moral, principles or religious beliefs of the member.”
The Obama Administration said the amendment would have a “significant adverse effect on good order, discipline, morale, and mission accomplishment.”
“With its statement, the White House is now endorsing military reprimands of members who keep a Bible on their desk or express a religious belief,” Fleming told Fox News. “This administration is aggressively hostile towards religious beliefs that it deems to be politically incorrect.”
Fleming introduced the amendment after a series of high-profile incidents involving attacks on religious liberty within the military- including an Air Force officer who was told to remove a Bible from his desk because it might give the impression he was endorsing a religion.
He said there are other reports of Christian service members and chaplains being punished for their faith.
  • The Air Force censored a video created by a chaplain because it include the word “God.” The Air Force feared the word might offend Muslims and atheists.
  • A service member received a “severe and possibly career-ending reprimand” for expressing his faith’s religious position about homosexuality in a personal religious blog.
  • A senior military official at Fort Campbell sent out a lengthy email officially instructing officers to recognize “the religious right in America” as a “domestic hate group” akin to the KKK and Neo-Nazis because of its opposition to homosexual behavior.
  • A chaplain was relieved of his command over a military chapel because, consistent with DOMA’s definition of marriage, he could not allow same-sex weddings to take place in the chapel.
Last month Coast Guard Rear Admiral William Lee told a National Day of Prayer audience that religious liberty was being threatened by Pentagon lawyers and service members are being told to hide their faith in Christ.
“Leaders like myself are feeling the constraints of rules and regulations and guidance issued by lawyers that put us in a tighter and tighter box regarding our constitutional right to express our religious faith,” he said.
Fleming said the purpose of his amendment is to clarify ambiguities in the Pentagon’s policies.
“The bottom line is the military is bending over backwards to remove – even in the case of chaplains – expressions of faith and conscience,” Fleming said.
Tony Perkins, president of the Family Research Council, called the Obama Administration’s edict a “chilling suppression of religious freedom.”
“The Obama administration has joined forces with those who are attacking the religious freedoms of those who serve in our Armed Services,” Perkins said. “The Administration’s opposition to Rep. Fleming’s religious freedom amendment reveals that this administration has gone beyond accommodating the anti-Christian activists who want to remove any vestige of Christianity from the military, to aiding them by blocking this bipartisan measure.”

9 comments:

  1. Anyone still doubt that Obama is a Muslim?

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    1. I couldn't speak to that, but it is pretty clear that the teachings of the Trinity United Church of Christ and perhaps some affiliation with the 'down low club' guided our president down..... a different path.

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  2. Here is the official White House statement: Expansion and Implementation of Protection of Rights of Conscience of Members of the Armed Forces and Chaplains of Such Members: The Administration strongly objects to section 530, which would require the Armed Forces to accommodate, except in cases of military necessity, "actions and speech" reflecting the "conscience, moral principles, or religious beliefs of the member." By limiting the discretion of commanders to address potentially problematic speech and actions within their units, this provision would have a significant adverse effect on good order, discipline, morale, and mission accomplishment.

    So, this mentions no particular religion. As a consequence, if this passed, a military commander would have to allow any Moslem soldier to distribute a call for jihad against other Christian soldiers under his command. Is this really what you want?

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    1. That Mick is BS to the highest rationalization order.... Jihad, assault, death threats are all well covered in the UCMJ....

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    2. Scotty, if you are a radical Muslim, killing infidels is part of your religious belief. Read the amendment again, "actions and speech" reflecting the "conscience, moral principles, or religious beliefs of the member." would be protected. Killing infidels is a religious action carried out because of a religious belief and therefore would be protected. The lawyers would love it!

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    3. Mick,

      "pursuit of happiness" - others shall not be infringed upon..... common sense is needed --- even a child could grasp the concept but not a liberal .... hmmm...

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    4. Micky.... If your a radical Christian part of your religious belief, or at least certain sects, is to burn crosses and kill blacks but I don't think that we have used that as an excuse to deny a soldier the right to pray in public.... but it does fit the modis of a group who would ban all guns because of the actions of a few nut jobs... Hey, I have an idea... previously we have had gay nut jobs who contracted AIDs and then deliberately spread it to unsuspecting partners... so we should ban being gay.... what do you think? Get real...

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  3. Just for curiosity, who else here has served in the US military?

    When I was in, there were a lot of things I could not do on active duty that civilians could do. Because I am liberal leaning, I don't think that those of you who are right leaning will give what I'm saying here a fair consideration, but here goes anyway.

    This is the second time this topic has shown up here, and it seems like this is becoming a propaganda tool. When I see Tony Perkins feeding homeless people, I say good on him. When I see him telling us how the military should conduct itself, I get concerned. We are not God's Christian army. Let that sink in. As Mick pointed out, this does not restrict a soldiers ability to believe in a particular faith or practice that faith. What it does restrict is their ability to recruit others and their ability to preach to others what their proper service to God should be.

    Between here and when we were on MW, I felt a subtle current of desire to see us engage in a full on war against Islam. As a nation, I think we have gone to ridiculous extremes to not offend Muslims and allow them to not be accountable for the more extreme shit done allegedly in the name of their religion. Still, I feel like there is a constant push to make the war on terror (an ambiguous nightmare of its own) a war on Islam. The military does not need to be magnetized by any faith. And while this article can quote the horror of an officer being told to put a bible away, what about the story of the chaplain who showed up with a tub of water and told soldiers they could have a bath only if they agreed to be baptized? http://archive.truthout.org/article/army-chaplain-offers-baptisms-baths

    It goes both ways. When I was in, religion was something you kept to yourself. I understand the politics of this and that's all that this is, politics.

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  4. "CAMP BUSHMASTER, Iraq - In this dry desert world near Najaf, where the Army V Corps combat support system sprawls across miles of scabrous dust, there's an oasis of sorts: a 500-gallon pool of pristine, cool water.

    It belongs to Army chaplain Josh Llano of Houston, who sees the water shortage, which has kept thousands of filthy soldiers from bathing for weeks, as an opportunity."

    I am glad that the chaplin had some kind of quid pro quo on using the tub... can you imagine "thousands of filthy soldiers" in just 500 gallons of water.... The last couple of hundred would be considerably worse for the experience...

    I served for 10 years starting in 71.... I wore a cross openly and no one had a problem with it. I did not attempt to hold prayer meeting in the barracks but that didn't stop people from arguing a point based on their religious perspective and serving with a bunch of draftees when I had enlisted did have its lively moments of debate. No the military isn't a democracy but I do see a trend where we tread lightly on Islam and gays (actually pushing thier agendas) at the expense of a larger population who is neither...

    Perhaps we need an official study on how included or excluded a Christian feels serving alongside Muslims in a war primarily against an enemy who ascribes to Islam....

    http://www.defenseculture.org/Research/EmergeResearchFiles/TheoreticalandBasicResearch/PreliminaryFindingsontheExperiencesofMuslimsintheUS.pdf

    Also I take quite a bit of offence to the president (small p) objecting to the ability of a soldier to show their faith while allowing another to show their sexuality.... (Remember - Don't ask don't tell is no different that 'Keep your cross in your pocket') in one NDAA and permitting the killing of Americans without trial in another....

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