Carson I think was not thinking at all clearly when he phrased the comment the way he did. He knows the constitution and is a principled person. A serious lack of judgement but a thought that anyone who loves this country should take some time to consider....
A poll commissioned in May 2015 by the Center for Security Policy showed that 51 percent of American Muslims preferred that they should have their own Shariah courts outside of the legal system ruled by the U.S. Constitution. And nearly a quarter believed the use of violent jihad was justified in establishing Shariah. The sample was small but gives one pause for thought. Maybe, just by chance the majority of the randomly selective Muslims were just the jihadists and they didn’t manage to get the views of the democracy loving Muslims.
Ihsan Bagby of CAIR's Washington office has said that Muslims "can never be full citizens of this country," referring to the United States, "because there is no way we can be fully committed to the institutions and ideologies of this country,"
CAIR national spokesman Ibrahim Hooper told a reporter for the Minneapolis Star-Tribune: “I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future.”
Later he said: “If Muslims ever become a majority in the United States, it would be safe to assume that they would want to replace the U.S. Constitution with Islamic law, as most Muslims believe that God’s law is superior to man-made law.” Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a Sunni Muslim cleric and head of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, is quoted in "The Islamization of the West" by Patrick Sookhdeo, as saying:
"Islam entered Europe twice and left it. ... Perhaps the next conquest, Allah willing, will be by means of preaching and ideology. The conquest need not necessarily be by the sword. ... Perhaps we will conquer these lands without armies. We want an army of preachers and teachers who will present Islam in all languages and in all dialects."
Call that Islamaphobic if you will, but if someone says they are going to burn your house down... do you have to at least consider the threat?
Can I suggest that in the present political climate, the idea of a Muslim as President would frighten the majority and absolutely petrify the remainder of your population. For the past seven years we have had constant attacks leveled at your President concerning his religion and his ethnicity. The words by Dr Ben Carson appear to be poorly chosen and I would think his intent was capable of several different interpretations.
I suggest the Constitution will not protect the country from a Muslim President in the future, it may however allow the Electoral College to act in accordance with its charter as stated in the Constitution. The subsequent upheavals would perhaps emulate the events which began at Fort Sumter in 1861.Is this debate worth prosecuting as the amount of oxygen given to such debates often fan the flames of discontent/?
“I was a little Jakarta street kid,” he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office. He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism — if he once studied the Koran with them.
Mr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
"Gods law is superior to man made law" is precisely what the religious right are preaching today as they try to take over the Republican Party. Doesn't that scare you too?
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
"Mark my word! if and when these preachers get control of the Republican Party its going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly these people frighten me. Politics demands and governing demands compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God. So they can't or won't compromise. I know , I've tried to deal with them." Barry Goldwater.
So, doesn't the religious right remind you of ISIS and sharia law?
It does... but at least with the dismantling of the KKK we don't see a whole lot of lynchings... or beheading. People, all people, have the right to express their beliefs most vigorously, and the people of the Christian right do that. They complain about the lack of morality.. of promiscuity.. if the conveniences of abortion to the very real determent to the sanctity of life... but as of yet, I haven’t heard any hard court press for the institution of laws which would require the removal of one’s hand as a punishment for theft... or the stoning of a woman for infidelity.... of course I don’t see a lot of people paying them much attention either... the real radical dogma driving the world is the environmentalists... turn your lights off and eat weeds....
Islam’s stated goal, as expressed by every major Imam on this planet, is to affect the entire world... Sharia law is not compatible with the constitution... period. My fear however is that so few people seem to revere or even respect the document that through precedent, Sharia will supplant important tenets of our law. If our supreme court can actually find things like ‘Separate but Equal’ in our constitution... lord only know what a truly motivated judge can perceive... after all, we seem to have found considerable, if not infinite, latitude in the ‘Elastic Clause’.
Great column. Thanks for posting it, Doc.
ReplyDeleteCarson I think was not thinking at all clearly when he phrased the comment the way he did. He knows the constitution and is a principled person. A serious lack of judgement but a thought that anyone who loves this country should take some time to consider....
ReplyDeleteA poll commissioned in May 2015 by the Center for Security Policy showed that 51 percent of American Muslims preferred that they should have their own Shariah courts outside of the legal system ruled by the U.S. Constitution. And nearly a quarter believed the use of violent jihad was justified in establishing Shariah. The sample was small but gives one pause for thought. Maybe, just by chance the majority of the randomly selective Muslims were just the jihadists and they didn’t manage to get the views of the democracy loving Muslims.
Ihsan Bagby of CAIR's Washington office has said that Muslims "can never be full citizens of this country," referring to the United States, "because there is no way we can be fully committed to the institutions and ideologies of this country,"
CAIR national spokesman Ibrahim Hooper told a reporter for the Minneapolis Star-Tribune: “I wouldn’t want to create the impression that I wouldn’t like the government of the United States to be Islamic sometime in the future.”
Later he said: “If Muslims ever become a majority in the United States, it would be safe to assume that they would want to replace the U.S. Constitution with Islamic law, as most Muslims believe that God’s law is superior to man-made law.”
Yusuf al-Qaradawi, a Sunni Muslim cleric and head of the European Council for Fatwa and Research, is quoted in "The Islamization of the West" by Patrick Sookhdeo, as saying:
"Islam entered Europe twice and left it. ... Perhaps the next conquest, Allah willing, will be by means of preaching and ideology. The conquest need not necessarily be by the sword. ... Perhaps we will conquer these lands without armies. We want an army of preachers and teachers who will present Islam in all languages and in all dialects."
Call that Islamaphobic if you will, but if someone says they are going to burn your house down... do you have to at least consider the threat?
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DeleteCan I suggest that in the present political climate, the idea of a Muslim as President would frighten the majority and absolutely petrify the remainder of your population.
DeleteFor the past seven years we have had constant attacks leveled at your President concerning his religion and his ethnicity. The words by Dr Ben Carson appear to be poorly chosen and I would think his intent was capable of several different interpretations.
I suggest the Constitution will not protect the country from a Muslim President in the future, it may however allow the Electoral College to act in accordance with its charter as stated in the Constitution. The subsequent upheavals would perhaps emulate the events which began at Fort Sumter in 1861.Is this debate worth prosecuting as the amount of oxygen given to such debates often fan the flames of discontent/?
“I was a little Jakarta street kid,” he said in a wide-ranging interview in his office. He once got in trouble for making faces during Koran study classes in his elementary school, but a president is less likely to stereotype Muslims as fanatics — and more likely to be aware of their nationalism — if he once studied the Koran with them.
DeleteMr. Obama recalled the opening lines of the Arabic call to prayer, reciting them with a first-rate accent. In a remark that seemed delightfully uncalculated (it’ll give Alabama voters heart attacks), Mr. Obama described the call to prayer as “one of the prettiest sounds on Earth at sunset.”
"Gods law is superior to man made law" is precisely what the religious right are preaching today as they try to take over the Republican Party. Doesn't that scare you too?
DeleteThat's exactly what righty hero Kim Davis stated prior to her stay in the pokey for refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples.
DeleteJust thought I'd point that out ...
"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."
Delete"The pump don't work,
DeleteCuz the vandals took the handle."
"Mark my word! if and when these preachers get control of the Republican Party its going to be a terrible damn problem. Frankly these people frighten me. Politics demands and governing demands compromise. But these Christians believe they are acting in the name of God. So they can't or won't compromise. I know , I've tried to deal with them." Barry Goldwater.
ReplyDeleteSo, doesn't the religious right remind you of ISIS and sharia law?
It does... but at least with the dismantling of the KKK we don't see a whole lot of lynchings... or beheading. People, all people, have the right to express their beliefs most vigorously, and the people of the Christian right do that. They complain about the lack of morality.. of promiscuity.. if the conveniences of abortion to the very real determent to the sanctity of life... but as of yet, I haven’t heard any hard court press for the institution of laws which would require the removal of one’s hand as a punishment for theft... or the stoning of a woman for infidelity.... of course I don’t see a lot of people paying them much attention either... the real radical dogma driving the world is the environmentalists... turn your lights off and eat weeds....
DeleteIslam’s stated goal, as expressed by every major Imam on this planet, is to affect the entire world... Sharia law is not compatible with the constitution... period. My fear however is that so few people seem to revere or even respect the document that through precedent, Sharia will supplant important tenets of our law. If our supreme court can actually find things like ‘Separate but Equal’ in our constitution... lord only know what a truly motivated judge can perceive... after all, we seem to have found considerable, if not infinite, latitude in the ‘Elastic Clause’.