It's more than a little interesting that the rancher who is in trouble has made it clear they do not want the assistance of Bundy. I watched a lot of local coverage here when poppa Bundy had his 15 minutes of fame and it was pretty bizarre. I remember one scene in particular where a young woman kept running at the Federal agents and their dogs and as soon as the dogs started barking and lunging at her, she would immediately whip up her iphone and record video of the dogs lunging at her. That entire thing was a shit show.
Based on the story presented, Bundy's claim seems to be a little ridiculous. What an asshat.
Hey, ranchers lives matter. A couple of cowboys hole up in an abandon shack in the middle of nowhere and all of a sudden they are terorists. Princeton students seize a university building and and they are codled.
Let them alone. Let them eat their beef jerky, screw a few sheep, and play with their guns and everyone will go home happy. Let the students smoke a few joints, watch their lesbian friends play with each other, and put their credit cards on overdraft, and the world will be calm.
Homestly, don't we have enough problems with real terrorists without these sensational made for MSNBC headlines?
The ______ lives matter thing is getting a little long in the tooth. Your first para seems to be in contrast to the story. Bundy was protesting the legal problems of an actual rancher there, a rancher who has stated openly they reject any support from Bundy. If the legal aspect portrayed in the story is correct, the ranchers broke the law and then committed arson to try and cover their tracks.
But for the rest of your post, I pretty much agree. If a bunch of students seize a building and block the ability of others to continue their education, the protestors should be flushed out, sent to jail, and be given their day in court. The story is out, the media should move on and let Bundy and his friends stay in quiet time until they are ready to come out and act like adults.
Hey if the reports are true they deserved to be arrested. Staying true to YOUR beliefs Wil that is our land the people. These clowns didn't ask if they could burn it up. I don't want our land burnt. these fuckers didn't ask permission to poach game from our land. I want the animals left alone. Animals lives matter too. They have sinned against US Wil We the people. They deserve what they get.
Well, if a group which call itself a militia takes a public facility belonging to the people by force, that is an act of war. They have clearly broken the law. The namby pamby response by federal agents to the original Bundy fiasco only encouraged these people to up the ante. Surround the building with federal agents, cut off their utilities, leaving them without water and electricity and wait for them to surrender.
If it is an act of war as you say it's a good thing for them that our government is not in the business of declaring war.
"The last time Congress passed joint resolutions saying that a "state of war" existed was on June 5, 1942, when the U.S. declared war on Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania,,,"
Maybe we could get the UN to declare a "policing action" as they did in Korea. Or we could carpet bomb them and spray them with agent orange as we did to the civilians in Nam, and then deny it happened. Or we could accuse them of having weapons of mass destruction, as we did in Iraq. Lots of ways to wage war without a declaration.
Federal lands are lands in the United States for which ownership is claimed by the U.S. federal government, pursuant to Article Four, section 3, clause 2 of the United States Constitution.
government in the US is we the people. We own the land Wil as a nation of people. government can't own anything it is an inanimate object. Besides much of it is preserving some pretty cool shit that you and yours would destroy like ISIL destroys cool shit in the middle east. You find that the gas, coal, oil and timber are more important then preservation of some of the beauty of our country. Hell lets be like Russia and China and just tear the fuck outta everything for a buck Wil.
Bundy is a punk ass bitch. This would be a really risky move, but the town people should show up at the perimeter with bullhorns, and unarmed, and manipulate the media to cover their side of the story and make Bundy look like the full blown, full of shit, bloviating dickhead that he is.
Tell us what you really think about Bundy and his views on States rights max. I won't hold my breath as I already know your hook line and sinker acceptance of federal supremacy. Marshall ' s "modern" property rights ruling is at odds with the constitution and won't stand if and when a "real" conservative court ever gets placed.
Then again max, you and a majority of ass wipes are quite happy in suck - ing the progressive statists d___ks.
You know William, I've tried to start the new year having civil discussion with you. Do you think maybe you can drop the dick sucking references for awhile?
Regardless of whether I agree or disagree with his views on states rights, his actions, right now, are impinging on the freedom of those who live near there who have to deal with his circus. He's allowed to think what he wants, he's allowed to preach what he wants, and IMO, the people who live there have the right to have his protest ended. The people there don't want him there. The people he's allegedly defending want nothing to do with him. That's what your movement is becoming William, a deification of Saul Alinski.
It's more than a little interesting that the rancher who is in trouble has made it clear they do not want the assistance of Bundy. I watched a lot of local coverage here when poppa Bundy had his 15 minutes of fame and it was pretty bizarre. I remember one scene in particular where a young woman kept running at the Federal agents and their dogs and as soon as the dogs started barking and lunging at her, she would immediately whip up her iphone and record video of the dogs lunging at her. That entire thing was a shit show.
ReplyDeleteBased on the story presented, Bundy's claim seems to be a little ridiculous. What an asshat.
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DeleteHey, ranchers lives matter. A couple of cowboys hole up in an abandon shack in the middle of nowhere and all of a sudden they are terorists. Princeton students seize a university building and and they are codled.
DeleteLet them alone. Let them eat their beef jerky, screw a few sheep, and play with their guns and everyone will go home happy. Let the students smoke a few joints, watch their lesbian friends play with each other, and put their credit cards on overdraft, and the world will be calm.
Homestly, don't we have enough problems with real terrorists without these sensational made for MSNBC headlines?
The ______ lives matter thing is getting a little long in the tooth. Your first para seems to be in contrast to the story. Bundy was protesting the legal problems of an actual rancher there, a rancher who has stated openly they reject any support from Bundy. If the legal aspect portrayed in the story is correct, the ranchers broke the law and then committed arson to try and cover their tracks.
DeleteBut for the rest of your post, I pretty much agree. If a bunch of students seize a building and block the ability of others to continue their education, the protestors should be flushed out, sent to jail, and be given their day in court. The story is out, the media should move on and let Bundy and his friends stay in quiet time until they are ready to come out and act like adults.
Juliette Kayyem agrees with me:
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Hey if the reports are true they deserved to be arrested. Staying true to YOUR beliefs Wil that is our land the people. These clowns didn't ask if they could burn it up. I don't want our land burnt. these fuckers didn't ask permission to poach game from our land. I want the animals left alone. Animals lives matter too. They have sinned against US Wil We the people. They deserve what they get.
ReplyDeleteWell, if a group which call itself a militia takes a public facility belonging to the people by force, that is an act of war. They have clearly broken the law. The namby pamby response by federal agents to the original Bundy fiasco only encouraged these people to up the ante. Surround the building with federal agents, cut off their utilities, leaving them without water and electricity and wait for them to surrender.
ReplyDeleteIf it is an act of war as you say it's a good thing for them that our government is not in the business of declaring war.
Delete"The last time Congress passed joint resolutions saying that a "state of war" existed was on June 5, 1942, when the U.S. declared war on Bulgaria, Hungary, and Romania,,,"
Maybe we could get the UN to declare a "policing action" as they did in Korea. Or we could carpet bomb them and spray them with agent orange as we did to the civilians in Nam, and then deny it happened. Or we could accuse them of having weapons of mass destruction, as we did in Iraq. Lots of ways to wage war without a declaration.
Deletehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_lands
Deletehttp://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/01/04/fbi-calls-for-peaceful-end-to-armed-siege-oregon-wildlife-refuge-in-land-fight.html?intcmp=hpbt2
ReplyDeleteIt is because we are an exceptional country that these "cowboys" are getting away with this. Most places they would be dead by now.
ReplyDeleteThe government owns over seven hundred million acres of ground in our country.
DeleteWhy?
Federal lands are lands in the United States for which ownership is claimed by the U.S. federal government, pursuant to Article Four, section 3, clause 2 of the United States Constitution.
DeleteSeven hundred million acres? Why
Deletegovernment in the US is we the people. We own the land Wil as a nation of people. government can't own anything it is an inanimate object.
DeleteBesides much of it is preserving some pretty cool shit that you and yours would destroy like ISIL destroys cool shit in the middle east. You find that the gas, coal, oil and timber are more important then preservation of some of the beauty of our country. Hell lets be like Russia and China and just tear the fuck outta everything for a buck Wil.
Bundy is a punk ass bitch. This would be a really risky move, but the town people should show up at the perimeter with bullhorns, and unarmed, and manipulate the media to cover their side of the story and make Bundy look like the full blown, full of shit, bloviating dickhead that he is.
ReplyDeleteTell us what you really think about Bundy and his views on States rights max. I won't hold my breath as I already know your hook line and sinker acceptance of federal supremacy. Marshall ' s "modern" property rights ruling is at odds with the constitution and won't stand if and when a "real" conservative court ever gets placed.
DeleteThen again max, you and a majority of ass wipes are quite happy in suck - ing the progressive statists d___ks.
You know William, I've tried to start the new year having civil discussion with you. Do you think maybe you can drop the dick sucking references for awhile?
DeleteRegardless of whether I agree or disagree with his views on states rights, his actions, right now, are impinging on the freedom of those who live near there who have to deal with his circus. He's allowed to think what he wants, he's allowed to preach what he wants, and IMO, the people who live there have the right to have his protest ended. The people there don't want him there. The people he's allegedly defending want nothing to do with him. That's what your movement is becoming William, a deification of Saul Alinski.