Monday, April 21, 2014

For Rick As I have stated the origination of the landline program numerous times.

Age seems to be getting to you as your memory slips. 

As to yous BS origination comment.

You should take some time to read the original paper written by Stuart Butler and compare it to the abortion you call Obamacare which is the ACA.  Similar, Mandate.

The Butler's solution was excellent however the Dem's morphed it into this mess.

Look under solutions that will not work.

Direct and indirect government assistance should be concentrated on those that need it most.  *)K is need it most?

Employer healthcare would be taxable.  ACA seemed to miss that one.

Long term nursing costs, had that and cancelled it.

A number of suggestions to purchase long term care, missed that one.

Free physicals, BC pills, Colonoscopies, mammograms, FREE.  No nothing like in the plan. 

No nothing like 26 years olds in the proposal.

No nothing like one size fits all insurance.

Expansion of high risk subsidized pools subsidized by government.  No that didn't happen instead it was dumped into standard insurance.

All in all Rick you comments are bullshit and you didn't even bother to read the proposal  just more blather talking points.

Here's a direct link read it this time.

http://healthcarereform.procon.org/sourcefiles/1989_assuring_affordable_health_care_for_all_americans.pdf 



4 comments:

  1. Fuck you don't talk to me then. You think I care if your angry old ass comments to me. And you have never talked about the origination of the landline and now cell phones for free. I guess that is the purpose of this thread that has nothing to do with landlines. And again since you can't read I only alluded to the mandate which is in the heritage plan and the exchanges which are in the heritage plan. You're not only an angry old cuss you lie. Why did you leave out the low income tax credits/ rebates to help the less fortunate afford insurance. It's in there.

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  2. The Heritage Foundation, a private research and education institute based in Washington, D.C., has released a new Web Memorandum that examines funding options for state health insurance exchanges. The memorandum, listed as Web Memo Number 1573 and authored by Greg D'Angelo and Edmund Haislmaier, was released July 30, 2007.
    In "State Health Reform: How to Fund a Statewide Health Insurance Exchange," D'Angelo and Haislmaier explain that a health insurance exchange "...performs the administrative functions associated with individuals choosing and paying for health insurance within the context of employer-sponsored coverage...." This mechanism allows individuals to get health insurance under federal laws dealing with employer-sponsored plans while participating states handle the administrative aspects of the health plans.

    The first step, according to the authors, is for the state to establish a new health insurance market that merges the positive aspects of individual and group markets. Currently, individual and group markets are separate and distinct. Once this hybrid market is established, the health insurance exchange can be created to manage the new system. Employers would be able to join the arrangement voluntarily, enabling their employees to purchase their health insurance coverage through the exchange using their pre-tax income.

    Heritage foundation 2007

    http://voices.yahoo.com/heritage-report-funding-state-health-exchanges-474957.html

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  3. Heritage Foundation wins - gets its 1994 health care plan made into law



    Just how far right has the Overton window been pushed the past two decades?

    Let's begin by considering the origins of "Obamacare". It comes from Massachusetts. It was passed early in Gov. Patrick's reign because during the campaign it was already in debate as it was Gov. Mitt Romney's proposal. Now, one might wonder where the conservative, free market, head of Bain Consulting governor might go [to find] a healthcare plan? Well, he got it from the Heritage Foundation. And why did they have such a plan? Well, they developed its broad outlines during the 1993-4 years as the Republican ANSWER to Hillary's effort. So, that is our new federal plan -- it is a warmed over version of the Heritage Plan.

    Professor of economics at Middlebury College, Robert E. Prasch, continues (hat tip to James Woolley at The Economic Populist):

    Now, I tend to be skeptical of Heritage Foundation health-care plans. For several reasons:

    (1) By design, costs are not contained, neither is health care reformed. This means that "affordability" does not come from controlling costs, but by shifting them. Shift to whom? A hallmark of the Heritage/Romney plan is that no change of the distribution of income is to occur with the financing of this plan. NONE. Rather, funding is to be from three sources --- those with supposedly "Cadillac" plans, those who have "opted out' because of the laughably high cost of coverage relative to their own risks, and to the state general fund.

    (2), In light of state budget shortfalls, it is no surprise that the latter source is declining quickly, and tens of thousands of Mass residents have ALREADY lost their subsidies (this trend will certainly occur on Capitol Hill over the next several years as 'deficit mania" kicks in). So, get this, as your income declines and your house is repossessed, the cost of your health care rises with higher premiums AND lower subsidies. But, make no mistake, even as the subsidies decline, the mandate will stay -- why should the big companies give up this huge windfall of unchecked access to the wages of the low paid?

    (3) I also wish to warn against the 'NPR version' of the story that this bill "gives" health care for those without. Nothing is given, it is a MANDATE. Now, while the original 'vision' of the bill had subsidies, these are fading rapidly. So, now we have a dramatically underfunded mandate. Solving the lack of insurance by mandating the poor to buy it is, to be blunt, Dickensian. Obama himself stated it very well during the campaign "It is like solving homelessness with a mandate that those living on the streets buy a house".

    "during the campaign" Yeah, well, the real question now is:

    Do you suppose Heritage's idea of health care reform will work out as great as Heritage's idea of financial deregulation did?

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  4. you ain't all that fun to debate anyway angry old man.

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